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1400 CLASS – JOINTED FRAMES?
In Journal Vol.3 No.8 Nigel Thompson asked what evidence there was
for the frames of Bill Baileys being made in one piece. Ted Talbot
posed the question to Philip Atkins and received the following
reply:
Dear Ted,
Yes I did say this, it was a detail I got from Brian Reed, who
also put it in his (posthumous) book ‘Crewe Locomotive Works and its
Men’, published very soon afterwards (p.137). He mentions the
4-6-0 frames were actually slotted in the Wheel Shop.
At the NRM we have the original GA, signed by George Whale  , which
is in perfect condition. No.1400 was designed and built with
remarkable speed, probably by adapting an already ordered
0-8-0, rather like the GCR in 1918 with a
2-8-0 to a 4-6-0.
Philip Atkins
A RUN ON THE PROBLEM
Dear Mike,
The article in
Journal Vol 3 No 9 was accompanied by a photograph
on p321 of No.827 VICTORIA entering Euston. The carriages can be
identified thus:
The first carriage is a 30ft 1in x 8ft 0in x 7ft 8in third.
The second is one of the pioneer 42ft 0in x 8ft 6in x 7ft 10in
radial lavatory tri-composites built in 1885 for London –
Birmingham and Leamington services. Note the body support pads along
the solebar. The compartment layout was 3/Lg/F/Lavs/F/S/T.
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There were 23 vehicles of this type, Page 57 in the 1895 Diagram
Book , but all had been supplemented by 1915 and hence do not appear
in the final Diagram Book. Nevertheless, one lasted in LMS service
until 1937. There is no record of any being altered to bogies.
The carriages still have full length lower foot boards. which
suggests a date not later than 1901.
Philip A. Millard
BUSH BURY
Dear Mike,
Harry Jack employs the same tactics as myself in identifying
photographs. I would however question whether GWR passenger trains
used the connection from Cannock Road to Bushbury, Royal trains
excepted. Passengers on down
LNWR Trains would have to ‘mind the gap’.
CHARTER DAY AT WATFORD p278
Centre right. The model is the LNWR Kings Saloon, not a Dining
Car, which is now on display at the NRM. Note the double width doors
and window arrangement.
Bottom right. The ship appears to be one of. the 1920/1 quartet
ANGLIA, CAMBRIA, HIBERNIA and SCOTIA, which were built when the LNWR
took over the mail contract from the City of Dublin Steam Packet Co.
A model of one of these four is visible but the name not readable in
the warehouse at the NRM and is presumably the same one as that on
the float. I think the models at Kelvin Hall all came from
Denny’s and I don’t think any from the NRM went
there.
John Edgington
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